{"id":593,"date":"2014-11-15T16:51:48","date_gmt":"2014-11-15T16:51:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/?p=593"},"modified":"2014-12-12T18:54:11","modified_gmt":"2014-12-12T18:54:11","slug":"hot-tub","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/?p=593","title":{"rendered":"Hot Tub!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_563\" style=\"width: 730px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/HotTub01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-563\" class=\"size-full wp-image-563\" src=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/HotTub01.jpg\" alt=\"The first test.  Kid approved.\" width=\"720\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/HotTub01.jpg 720w, https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/HotTub01-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-563\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The first test. Kid approved.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Siri and I have been thinking about a hot tub almost since we started thinking about getting a house together. \u00a0Hot tubs are excessive. \u00a0Hot tubs are fun. \u00a0We wanted a hot tub. \u00a0We have included it in the roof deck plans; better get one now so we know it works before we try to build a deck around it.<\/p>\n<p>Knowing full well we couldn&#8217;t afford a new one we searched for Craigslist for nice used ones starting a year ago. \u00a0We even checked a few [awful] ones out. \u00a0After a year we made the decision not to wait any longer. We found one that was relatively modern and working. \u00a0We drove down to check it out and started working on the logistics to move it. \u00a0We were lucky enough to get all of the wires, breaker boxes, conduit from the tub all the way up to the fuse box. \u00a0This stuff adds up and was likely worth several hundred dollars. \u00a0We did need\u00a0a few little extras, but not much.<\/p>\n<p>It was a tough move. \u00a0We hired a &#8220;hot tub mover&#8221; to do this, but it was really just a tow truck driver and his sons. \u00a0Getting it from the street to the back was a tight squeeze. \u00a0Tight enough that I had to remove the iron gate on the alley. \u00a0We got a few scratches, but nothing major.<\/p>\n<p>We hired our friend Tom to wire this up. \u00a0Hot tub electrics are no joke. \u00a0240V @ 50 Amps is a lot of juice&#8230;. sitting next to water. \u00a0Code is pretty clear on this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>GFCI protected because water + electric = bad<\/li>\n<li>Emergency cutoff breaker within sight (not too far)<\/li>\n<li>5&#8242; minimum from the breaker\/disconnect box (not too close either)<\/li>\n<li>Bonded to any metal within 5&#8242;<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t be under any power wires (so if they come down, they don&#8217;t land in the tub)<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t be within 10&#8242; of those lines (so you can&#8217;t possibly reach one from the tub)<\/li>\n<li>60&#8243; minimum from non-tempered glass windows and doors (don&#8217;t want glass in the tub)<\/li>\n<li>Wires must be protected by conduit.<\/li>\n<li>etc, etc.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Anyways&#8230; we got it all wired up, conduit ran. \u00a0Gave it a few days for an inspection and then finally I got to fire it up&#8230;. pumps worked for about 20 seconds, but it wasn&#8217;t full yet so I shut it off&#8230; that was the last I got out of it. \u00a0Something died. There was an error code &#8220;E1&#8221;. \u00a0Time to call tech support.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_594\" style=\"width: 539px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_43211.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-594\" class=\"wp-image-594 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_43211-1024x378.jpg\" alt=\"Damnit\" width=\"529\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_43211-1024x378.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/IMG_43211-300x110.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 529px) 100vw, 529px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-594\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I was really trying NOT to learn how hot tubs worked; well fuck.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>RANT:<br \/>\nTheir website says &#8220;Proudly Made in the U.S.A.&#8221; \u00a0yet nearly every part is made somewhere else.\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ethink-spa.en.gongchang.com\/product\" target=\"_blank\">Ethink<\/a>, a Chinese company, makes the controller, heater and topside controls. \u00a0The 2x4s are stamped with maple leaves. \u00a0If you are using parts from other countries, be honest about it.. or at a minimum put those pieces together with some U.S.A pride.<\/p>\n<p>This thing&#8217;s MSRP is as much as a car. \u00a0You&#8217;d expect car like fit and finish. \u00a0Sadly that&#8217;s not the case. \u00a0This thing was screwed and glued together in a hurry and it shows. \u00a0\u00a0The pumps are screwed into a piece of plywood with the rubber bushings still attached to the base of the pump. \u00a0Too lazy to eliminate a source of vibration I guess. \u00a0Also the &#8220;sealed&#8221; electronics box would have been.. if they hadn&#8217;t just run too small of wires through the connectors without first seeing if they actually sealed. \u00a0The sides are held on by 3\/8&#8243; strips of plywood and stapled 1\/16&#8243; into the boards. \u00a0A tiny bit of movement and they just fall to pieces&#8230; and you will need to move them because there is no access panel on this thing, not even to adjust the subwoofer. Set it and forget it.<\/p>\n<p>As for the technical service, they\u00a0must be closely tied with their sales department because every path led to &#8220;replace part&#8221;. \u00a0They said the &#8220;E1&#8221; error was a loose wire and apparently really hard to troubleshoot. \u00a0&#8220;You should buy a new controller to see if that works.&#8221; \u00a0I asked if they would take it back if it didn&#8217;t fix the problem they said &#8220;no returns&#8221;. \u00a0What&#8217;s the incentive there to actually support your product? \u00a0Fuck Energy Saver Spa alias Laguna Bay Spa, Home and Garden (Home Depot), Dr Wellness.<br \/>\nEND RANT.<\/p>\n<p>Since the price to replace the control box (had to buy the whole box, not just the circuit board) was $400, we decided to shop around. \u00a0Turns out a brand new controller with a warranty, documentation, integral heater and included top side controls was the same price. \u00a0We ended up buying a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.geckoalliance.com\/Documents\/yseries_techbook_a_en.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Gecko YE-5.<\/a>\u00a0 It&#8217;s relatively basic, but it supports all the features we have. \u00a0Of course this won&#8217;t drop in, but its not rocket science. \u00a0I had to do some PVC pipe work to lower and lengthen the heater location. \u00a0We reused a few parts, bought a few from home depot. \u00a0Pretty easy stuff. Finally got it in a full 3 hours before the first big freeze of the year.<\/p>\n<p>Future plans include adding a 120V outlet so we can add a Bluetooth adapter to the stereo\u00a0and\u00a0new speakers (one is blown). \u00a0Plans also include reducing our operating costs by\u00a0insulating all 4 sides and getting the ozonator working again.<\/p>\n<p>Next time I&#8217;m just going to build one from scratch.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Siri and I have been thinking about a hot tub almost since we started thinking about getting a house together. &hellip;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/?p=593\">Continue reading &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-593","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-home_improvement"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/593","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=593"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/593\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":597,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/593\/revisions\/597"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=593"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.formstonecastle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}